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    Default can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    would it be possible to steal a ecu out of a vts as it is 125bhp and fit it to my gt taking the bhp of the gt from 110bhp to 125bhp?

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    98% sure the answer is no

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    No.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    no, am sure there is other reasons why the vts is 125bhp, its not just he ecu
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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    if you were to change the inlet manifold and cams also then the answer is YES.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    i dont think its as easy as that you know how tempremental these engines are lol best advice is to stick with what you got i would say theirs more than just the ecu that gives the vts its extra power
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    Very mixed oppinions about this?

    Surly the answer is YES, but with out the cams and inlet manifold, (and other differences, if there are some??) you wont see much increase?

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    there's no point in even trying, cams and inlet manifold and then it's deffinately possible!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ellis
    if you were to change the inlet manifold and cams also then the answer is YES.
    The answer is NO.

    There is a bit more to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by ellis
    if you were to change the inlet manifold and cams also then the answer is YES.
    The answer is NO.

    There is a bit more to it.
    Such as?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madmike46
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by ellis
    if you were to change the inlet manifold and cams also then the answer is YES.
    The answer is NO.

    There is a bit more to it.
    Such as?

    Like trying to get blood out a stone this place!
    There will be a communication problem, which will lock the ECU.

    You can get the power difference sorted with the existing ECU. proper induction and exhaust, which is the cheaper route and gets you inexcess of 140bhp.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    So if you want to get bigger power from a gt/vtr is the vts inlet mani the way to go?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by Madmike46
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by ellis
    if you were to change the inlet manifold and cams also then the answer is YES.
    The answer is NO.

    There is a bit more to it.
    Such as?

    Like trying to get blood out a stone this place!
    There will be a communication problem, which will lock the ECU.

    You can get the power difference sorted with the existing ECU. proper induction and exhaust, which is the cheaper route and gets you inexcess of 140bhp.
    Ok thanks for the info. Ill be keeping my GT for a few years so thats why I wanted to know. My mate works at a Citroen garage and I was hoping I would be able to pick up VTS "go faster bits" from a few specialist breakers yards. But yea hopefully some good spec, not crazy, but realistic, is what I'm lookin towards.

    Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyyyyy
    So if you want to get bigger power from a gt/vtr is the vts inlet mani the way to go?
    Not really. Best is to get induction, exhaust and re-map and power will exceed VTS by quite a margin. More details you will find on perfromancec2.co.uk.

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    The VTS has the alloy plenum chamber which has suprerior air flow characteristics than the plastic one on the VTR & GT. Also there are rumours that the VTS cams may be different but I cant confirm this.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyyyyy
    So if you want to get bigger power from a gt/vtr is the vts inlet mani the way to go?
    Not really. Best is to get induction, exhaust and re-map and power will exceed VTS by quite a margin. More details you will find on perfromancec2.co.uk.
    lol id say 120bhp max
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    Quote Originally Posted by hughes741
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyyyyy
    So if you want to get bigger power from a gt/vtr is the vts inlet mani the way to go?
    Not really. Best is to get induction, exhaust and re-map and power will exceed VTS by quite a margin. More details you will find on perfromancec2.co.uk.
    lol id say 120bhp max
    Our findings are different and it has been repeatedly shown similar results.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by hughes741
    Quote Originally Posted by Oldschool
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyyyyy
    So if you want to get bigger power from a gt/vtr is the vts inlet mani the way to go?
    Not really. Best is to get induction, exhaust and re-map and power will exceed VTS by quite a margin. More details you will find on perfromancec2.co.uk.
    lol id say 120bhp max
    Our findings are different and it has been repeatedly shown similar results.
    so you honestly think you can get 30bhp from an exhaust and remap :lol: i dont think craig got that much and he has done alot more work
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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    Just because you can't do it, doesn't mean it can't be done. James' Gt is with an exhaust I wouldn't consider the best, a proper induction (not K&N rubbish) and re-map at 137bhp and over 140lb ft of torque.

    When you are doing this job for 29 years then we can discuss this in more detail.

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    Default Re: can i take a vts ecu and fit it to my gt?

    I can back oldschool up on this

    You can get alot out of the c2 engine

    I have not yet to give my car to pete but i am at 132 with a manifold and exhaust

    I personally think i will be at 150 + after i have a gsr induction and Red dot remap
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    i'l show my arse in the co op window if you get another 18bhp from gsr and remap. love to be wrong on this one. but 150bhp is a fuking lot of power out of a 1600 on factory cams and head and inlet manifold/ throttle body. you talkin honda vtec power out of a warm hatch, no way would citroen detune a motor to such an extent, time people stopped dreaming
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    but like iv said in the past i'l hold judgement til i see one of these 150bhp cars on a rolling road straight after a bog standard untouched same model car.
    when you say you have x bhp at the flywheel how you working this out cause every r/r i been on gives you @ wheels figure?? so without a proper engine dyno you cant possibly quote a certain figure!!!
    what id like to see is the above (r/r standard before etc.), @ wheels figure and a before and after printout (as in that certain car with 150 bhp dyno'd before anymod so we have an exact bhp gain) if you really wanna argue the case prove me wrong, take all bits off and dyno it then put stuff back on and dyno it again, (small price to pay and easy enough to do it'd actually prove something 100%)iv been in this game myself for 15 years before any teen agers try to start preachin to me, all i say is lets see the no buts proof
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    Quote Originally Posted by c2v6
    but like iv said in the past i'l hold judgement til i see one of these 150bhp cars on a rolling road straight after a bog standard untouched same model car.
    when you say you have x bhp at the flywheel how you working this out cause every r/r i been on gives you @ wheels figure?? so without a proper engine dyno you cant possibly quote a certain figure!!!
    what id like to see is the above (r/r standard before etc.), @ wheels figure and a before and after printout (as in that certain car with 150 bhp dyno'd before anymod so we have an exact bhp gain) if you really wanna argue the case prove me wrong, take all bits off and dyno it then put stuff back on and dyno it again, (small price to pay and easy enough to do it'd actually prove something 100%)iv been in this game myself for 15 years before any teen agers try to start preachin to me, all i say is lets see the no buts proof
    Get your bum down to Watford with a standard car and we will prove it.

    BTW, we haven't go a Co-op down here and I will need proof of it with photo but no photoshopping. :wink:

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    Im with pete i have a few friends that has been in the industry i also have been studying since i was like 13 Yes i might be 18 but i know what i am talking about i have had advice from pete and i know what can be done with the c2

    Why do you think i got rid of a clio 172 for one as i know it can be better than the clio !

    Really i really wanna get my car to 150 bhp now jsut to show people =]
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkshadows
    Im with pete i have a few friends that has been in the industry i also have been studying since i was like 13 Yes i might be 18 but i know what i am talking about i have had advice from pete and i know what can be done with the c2

    Why do you think i got rid of a clio 172 for one as i know it can be better than the clio !

    Really i really wanna get my car to 150 bhp now jsut to show people =]
    pmsl better than a clio 172 you are in dreamworld . pete is telling you porkies
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