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    Quote Originally Posted by Bash View Post
    You need to ensure that what ever intake you design has a direct outside air intake as the engine bay does not allow for any airflow. I found this on a dyno run where we witnessed 6bhp difference between the bonnet down and bonnet up using a K&N 57i.

    You can go for a extended rear spoiler which does look nice but it doesn't utilize the oem mounting holes and you have to stick it on: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Wing-spoi...AAAOSwPc9WujVb

    As far as stripping and/or track prep, there is no reason why you can't go for both. The car is pretty light as it stands so removing the back seats and adding a roll cage, sound deadening and speakers wont increase the weight too much.

    Thanks buddy. Yes i've extensive knowledge of a Clio 200 system (That's supposed to be excellent as standard) and how hard it is to improve upon. Whacking an induction kit in a warm engine bay isn't the answer however much it might sound (sic) like it.

    Many going for outright performance use the airbox from a V6. However i bought various aluminium pipe sections, silicon couplers etc and routed one of the two incoming air feeds (One already picked up from from the front of the car - the other was coupled to an acoustic valve that sat INSIDE the engine bay and only opens up above 5k as standard) down behind the headlight to the front of the car; and coupled with removal of the acoustic valve provided much better / cooler intake flow throughout the rev range. With some messing around with the 'design' when having a mapping session for other stuff; 48 dyno runs confirmed this !


    Cheers for advice on stripping. Pardon the pun; but in Clio World they call yours the GT / Club-racer look. And very nice it is too :-)
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    5.30am start for a 5 hour train journey with stops - and a 4 hour drive home later: day 1 of GT ownership begins.

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    Car is generally exceptionally good for its age:

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    Interior is immaculate apart from a few biscuit crumbs.......

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    Under the hood is all there in essence - just dusty and ugly looking:

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    And the biggest raft of paperwork to back up the originality / 51k you've ever seen. Every old MOT, original bill of sale, 11 stamps in the service book, 20 or 25 'service' receipts, Original key-card, parts invoices etc etc etc

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    Car drives and tracks well - but steering wheel is on the pi55; and the clutch has the highest bite-point i've ever known. I find it hard to believe it's going to last long.

    Apart from that i thought the engine pulled exceptionally well on the way home, the brakes are crisp and sharp and it pulls up straight, steering is good, suspension felt solid with zero 'crashes' and the car starts great and has no dash-lights on.

    All in all very pleased with this as a base to start on.....
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    LUK clutch the 'best' for a GT staying near standard engine wise ?

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GENUINE-L...oAAOSw3pVZ1zNV
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    Day 2 of ownership began with a near 8 hour session on the interior starting at 6am. I'm away on holiday tomorrow.....and at least wanted one area to my standards while pondering all things C2; laying on the beach......

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    I'd already bought some new mats as pictured: along with a stubby aerial.....

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    And a can of tyre foam which i've tie-wrapped under the passenger seat:

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    And i've ordered a new Aluminium gear-knob and a couple of remote fob repair kits from ebay.

    Wheels need powder-coating desperately. I'm thinking of going Bronze. Anyone else done this on a red C2 ?

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    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Hey buddy its pretty normal to have a very high clutch bite point with these cars. It surprises me every time I go form my other cars to this car but do some tests on yours to be sure especially if there you have no history of it being changed. The LUK clutch is the best non paddle clutch you can get for these cars however if you are changing it you may want to consider going for a lighter flywheel at the same time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bash View Post
    Hey buddy its pretty normal to have a very high clutch bite point with these cars. It surprises me every time I go form my other cars to this car but do some tests on yours to be sure especially if there you have no history of it being changed. The LUK clutch is the best non paddle clutch you can get for these cars however if you are changing it you may want to consider going for a lighter flywheel at the same time.
    Cheers Bash.

    Soon as i'm back off hol - i'll look through the history and see if it's been done anytime.

    With the hard'ish life the clutch might lead 'off-road' - i might just do it anyway. Sems an obvious weak-point to go wrong if i don't.


    I know my Loeb was on 65k (?) perhaps when i sold it. And that hadn't been done; and didn't feel like this one.....
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Busy times here trying to get the car ship-shape for some 'Track / 1/4 mile action'.....

    New Aluminium gear-knob fitted:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/149581...7666586270387/

    Wheels re powder-coated in Bronze and 4 new tyres fitted:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1737/4...b2027dae_b.jpg

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/149581...718940/sizes/l

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1734/4...6986d0ba_b.jpg

    Valeo Clutch arrived and being fitted Wednesday along with 2 litres of Total gearbox oil:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1732/4...c0a2fb2d_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1738/2...8974a438_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1737/4...6bc20ce9_b.jpg

    Made my own cabin 'pre-filter' - from a sheet of airbox foam.....as he GT doesn't have a cabin / pollen filter. Will stop too many dead flies etc getting in fingers crossed:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1751/4...707ce4cf_b.jpg

    Painted (KKN paint code to match the car) a worn Interior Ultrasonics alarm button:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1731/2...813cb8cb_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1746/4...3d61e920_b.jpg

    Changed the air-filter, whacked in a new engine oil and filter and a set of spark plugs:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1727/4...a0896c19_b.jpg

    Fitted a gas strut to the bonnet:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/149581...7666586270387/

    Had a serious clean / tidy under the hood, turning this:

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/953/42...a35f934a_b.jpg

    Into this:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1743/4...9dcc4c50_b.jpg

    Too delivery of some new wheel caps:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1751/4...7346b1f9_b.jpg

    And spent 30+ hours detailing the whole car; so it now looks like this:




    Next up: Suspension and spacers. Then brakes and we're ready for action ! (Not sure on the whole 'stripping' of the car as yet. We'll see.......
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Walk around video here:

    https://vimeo.com/274249519
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Looking good ,did a clutch replacement on your old car yesterday and it's only done 61k
    Used a Valeo kit from eBay @60 which comes with alignment tool to make life easier

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trek View Post
    Looking good ,did a clutch replacement on your old car yesterday and it's only done 61k
    Used a Valeo kit from eBay @60 which comes with alignment tool to make life easier
    Hiya Trek.

    Glad to hear the old beast is getting some love ! Your mum been racing off the lights too much.....lol

    Yea I got a Valeo in an ECP Sale for 49 delivered. It’s going in tomorrow. Ironic you did one yesterday. Still on low miles too. GREAT Loeb that one.... :-)
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    New Clutch is in, Gearbox oil changed; and as a bent track rod end was found - a new pair was fitted at the same time. And because of that the tracking was done afterwards too. Clutch change was a good idea after-all as there was a 'big' chunk out of a clutch plate. No wonder it was less than smooth at times.....


    And the car now feels amazing. Refreshed almost and driving superb.


    Just one small thing cropped up i havnt got to the bottom of yet. They also found a bush in the dogbone mount that's about to give up the ghost:

    https://www.flickr.com/photos/149581...548797/sizes/l

    I emailed Powerflex yesterday - as i gather this part is pretty weak as standard and a slightly uprated part may smoothen gear-change, put less pressure on exhaust (With less engine rocking etc etc). They were Useless with a capital U.

    Anyone else changed the dogbone bush's for Powerflex parts and can help with what i need ?

    Ta.
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    I used poly inserts which go into the oem torque mount. It fills out the voids and stiffens up the whole assembly. Engine is less "spongy" on a take offs, no more excessive rocking.
    "I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me. Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book." - Moog

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebastian View Post
    I used poly inserts which go into the oem torque mount. It fills out the voids and stiffens up the whole assembly. Engine is less "spongy" on a take offs, no more excessive rocking.
    Cheers for that. Yea......i've read and been told uprating this on a C2 will make a noticeable difference. I also have Powerflex Yellow series engine and gearbox mounts in my Clio 200....so am aware of how much it can sharpen things up.

    Powerflex wording says: This insert fits into the voids of the original mount. Please check void shape to select correct insert PFF12-204 or PFF12-205 (Which are pictured below):

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1754/2...36b3339b_b.jpg

    So i take it from that there's only one bush on the mount that can be upgraded / voids filled. But two different shapes possible ?
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Or two different shapes - and the bush's come as a pair (One either end of the dogbone) ?
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    There was a different iteration of the dog-bone hence two different shapes of inserts available. They come in pairs: left and right side.
    "I'd rather lose by a mile because I built my own car, than win by an inch because someone else built it for me. Your car is your story, so don't let someone else write the book." - Moog

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    Quote Originally Posted by sebastian View Post
    There was a different iteration of the dog-bone hence two different shapes of inserts available. They come in pairs: left and right side.
    Thanks sebastian.

    Seeing as the standard bush is perishing anyway - and the Powerflex parts just infill the gaps; i'm going to buy a new dogbone off ebay - and then buy the Powerflex bushes to suit that part.

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/180696-LO...4383.l4275.c10
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Just trying to do a little something everyday to 'improve' the car / make it mine........

    Today i (rather boringly) bought and fitted a seat cover [As i do get rather filthy at work sometimes]. Does look like once tied-in; it's going to fit pretty good. If anyone 'needs' one its here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BOAT-SEAT...72.m2749.l2649

    PICTURE: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1721/2...19884bb7_b.jpg

    One slightly more exciting thing that did turn out well; was a small storage net for the boot. To hold a packed lunch box, small bag or perhaps a helmet for trackdays. So after a measure-up and some searching i bought this:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Universal...72.m2749.l2649

    And immediately bought these to replace the crappo standard plastic clips:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UK-Seller...72.m2749.l2649

    So together they look like this:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1744/2...82f66211_b.jpg

    And in the car; it fitted perfectly....and looks like this:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1735/4...94299c95_b.jpg

    ***Aswell as the stretchy 'legs' enabling you to put something underneath it; the net itself has twin layers (And is sealed at one end) - so you can put something in-between too. Perfect to stop small stuff rattling around in the boot when you get a bit over-keen at a roundabout
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Bought some Spax Springs on ebay during the week. Monies got refunded......No Spax Springs in the Country ! No Apex in the UK or Holland either. Do i have the patience to wait ? Do i hell

    So giving some PI -30mm Springs a go:

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/899/28...8061be32_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1769/2...9db36c41_b.jpg

    Also got some 15mm hubcentric spacers going on front and rear:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1783/2...0742b0d6_b.jpg

    And as the same time will be fitting a new Poly-bushed lower engine mount as the original is starting to perish we noticed when changing the clutch:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1837/2...48b4e6ab_b.jpg

    Fitting Monday. Brakes next........



    Have a good weekend chaps.
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    One small thing i forgot that someone else may want to copy and i was really chuffed with...

    Original Blue washer bottle cap bugged me:

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/953/42...a35f934a_b.jpg


    As all the other caps / dipstick were Yellow. It took a couple of purchases - but i've now found a Corsa C washer bottle cap fits perfectly:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1811/2...dbc9f596_b.jpg

    Can be purchased here if need be:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VAUXHALL-...72.m2749.l2649
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    More odd-n-sods done this past week.........



    Updated expansion bottle cap fitted:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1785/4...87d98178_b.jpg


    Which you can buy here:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PEUGEOT-C...sAAOSwOzxZqp-C


    Made a drivers side only; sill protector......out of some Carbon Fibre vinyl wrap i had 'in-stock'

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/842/42...2deaf8ec_b.jpg


    Purchased some Xenon 501 bulbs for the front sidelights, the interior courtesy light, the boot light and 2 x rear number-plate bulbs:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2x-T10-W5...EAAOSw8mpbFtNe


    Got a Litre of Motul RBF600 on the way ready for a brake bleed:

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motul-RBF...19.m1438.l2649


    And yesterday gave it a real good detail, another coat of wax etc etc. Last time it will be seen on 'stilts'; as tomorrow is lowering springs and spacer fitting amongst other things:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1790/4...8171d0f5_b.jpg


    Cheers for stopping in.
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Lowering springs on. And worked out exactly 30mm drop [As described !] on day 1. Whether they 'settle' or not we'll see. Really pleased and exactly what i wanted visually.

    Tracking (Toe) went waaaaaay out after springs etc fitted. So had a Hunter Hawkeye wheel alignment / tracking / toe / camber done. My garage also noticed a bottom ball joint (Passenger side) with a little play in it; so both sides got replaced while it was apart.

    Before:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1790/4...8171d0f5_b.jpg

    After:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1807/4...c011629c_b.jpg

    And so much nicer with 15mm spacers on too IMO.


    Before:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1740/2...76174e3d_b.jpg

    And after:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1764/4...f32c4a14_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1824/4...cbfd1e63_b.jpg

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1830/4...46b10918_b.jpg
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Interior, boot courtesy light, 2 side-lights and two number-plate 501 capless bulbs swapped out for Ice-White Xenons:

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1827/4...e86f8959_b.jpg

    Came across a cool looking metal "GT' badge on ebay for the princely sum of 1.69. Looking to get this in under the bonnet somewhere when it arrives from China !

    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1x-Metal-...72.m2749.l2649


    And an up-to-date shot of the car beside Oulton Broad (Part of the Suffolk / Norfolk Broads) i copped early one morning on my way to work......

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1782/4...8721238a_z.jpg
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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    Quote Originally Posted by i lunn View Post
    pictures not working
    You can't see any by clicking on the highlighted links ? I know others can ? And reducing quality to fit the file size limit to put here directly is a bit of a joke.....



    GT Badge off ebay sits well under the hood i think (Not that big - just the angle taken at as the sun was right behind me and shadows had to be avoided !):

    https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/841/42...9a8d230e_b.jpg


    And "Colour Pop'd" my fave photo of the luke-warm baguette to date.......

    https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1763/2...747cf834_b.jpg
    Regards "Shuv" - (Ex) Loeb 337 and now GT No: 1965

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