How To Change Front Door Speakers + Pics

[ozVTR]

First:- a word on speakers.
I do not intend discussing the pros and cons of different types of speakers, comps, co-axe, peak power, RMS or what ever. That’s your job! At any one time there are always discussions on the forum about that and I do not purport to be an expert on huge system installs. I only intend to outline the physical mounting of said speakers and things to look out for.

The area in which the front door speakers are mounted is small. The white polystyrene foam “cup� that the speaker is mounted in is the splashguard. This stops water, which runs between the outer window seal and the glass, from splashing directly on the speaker. So take this into consideration if you decide to cut out this cup. When the window glass is down there is LESS than 10mm clearance behind the back of this foam cup and the glass! “OEM replacement speakers� with a mounting hole spacing of 156mm should fit. This includes (some) 16 cm and 17cm (6 ½�) speakers. The depth of the cup is a bit over 55mm. Of course check the dimensions BEFORE buying your speakers!
Is it worth it?
The original speakers have a paper cone, a short throw and a very small magnet. All of which result in poor bass response. The mid-to-upper response of the system is not bad (not brilliant but not bad) and the in-dash tweeters make the big difference here. Most good aftermarket brands of (mid priced at least) speakers will tighten up and un-muffle the bottom end of the frequency response. We are not talking gut-rumbling bass, just a tidy up of the bottom end. Of course I am only talking a “plug n play� solution here, no head unit change, amps or million dollar speakers.

For the record the speakers I installed were Clarion SRR1725’s. They cost me $120 AUD (that’s about £48 ).

Ok on with the install.

The speaker covers have pegs at the front (the most forward part) and lugs at the back. See the photo. Pull the front of the cover first, and then pull the rear lower peg out then “hinge� it towards the back.

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Drill off the heads of the pop rivets. I used a 9/64� drill bit. Use a vacuum cleaner (Hoover?) to suck up the swarf (bits of metal) as it comes of the rivets or it makes a mess.

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Lift the speaker out and sit it in the door pocket.

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There is a retaining lug on the electrical connector, push the lug inwards, towards the body of the connector, then pull the connector and speaker apart. Remove the speaker. Knock the remainder of the rivet into the door cavity using a hammer and flat punch. You can try to catch the bits of rivet but it’s a pain.

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A company called Autoconnect (in the UK) produce adaptors to go from the Citroen OEM plug to one large spade and one small spade connector (suits most replacement speakers). They are a mail-order company and charge about £7 postage but the adaptors are only £1.50 each. Or you can cut off the OEM connector and put crimp lugs on the wires!

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I took the silicone covers off the spade connectors on the wire supplied with the after market speakers and put them on the adaptor connectors (which, obviously, doesn’t come with them). I covered the adaptor wires with tubing then attached the assembly to the speaker with cable ties. The reason for this is to take the strain off the spade connectors and reduce the chance of the cabling catching on the window glass as it lowers.

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I pushed the two connectors together then checked that the speakers were working. Next I pop riveted the speaker in place. You could just as well use the screws and speed nuts provided in the speaker set.

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So there you are. Just snap the cover back in place and you are finished! Oops I nearly forgot, for the best sound you should do the other door too :wink: .

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[The-VTS-kid]

Great demo ozVTR for both front and back speakers! Im sure these will be really usefull to loads of us :-)

[c2ology]

Top demo! :wink:

[nick]

good stuff, cheers for that

[andyc2]

haha! nice one dude! just after i did that at the weekend as well. top demo! will come in handy for others im sure

[ez-1]

Yep good demo!
I've done that also, but I also replaced whole cabling. That was a PAIN! There is two or three rubber follow-throughs per door. They are really tight and those will rip your hands bleeding, but if you need better cabling then you have to do it.
Good tool for that job is really stiff wire. Take about two meters of that and bend it in double.
You can push that tool through those follow-throughs, attach cable to the tool and pull it back.

I'm sorry about my english and that I don't have any pictures of that mod.
But don't hesitate to ask if you have questins about this case.

[johnson142]

hi im new to c2 club and just brought a c2 for my 1st car. i was wondering what colour wire is the postive on the drivers and passenger side front door speakers. and what size speakers are used on the rear, help would be much appriciated dont want to cock up me 1st car lol.

[johnson142]

found out 13cm lol in other guide, still no wiser on the colours for positive though.

[Roachie]

Could a member of staff make the pics work in this post, Ill be using this guide 2moro.

Cheers!

[dan_n_zoe]

Where do you get the gizmo to pop rivet the speakers in place?

[ellis]

any diy shop sould sell one mate it's just a pop rivit gun ..... top guide by the way mate

[Bean1.1]

how do you get the speakers out becasue mine are fitted not with screws with like button things?? and do i defo need one of those addapters

[~AJ~]

You have to drill off the rivets, i think a 2 or 3mm drill bit should be enough, you literaly drill into the centre of them until they come down the drill bit or go all the way through.

[Bean1.1]

ive drilled them off now and i need help ASAP with wat to do i havnt got an aparter and i dunno wat to cut off lol

[scuderia91]

id just like to add to this you dont have to drill them of, a pair of thin pliers and a good pull will do the trick

[Oz88]

What size speakers do i need for the front and back?

[Minton]

Second the last post, are both front and back speakers both 13cm? Also, what wiring adapter is he talking about on this guide. I can't seem to find one to change it from the citroen wiring to fit the aftermarket speakers.

[Oz88]

^same question

[Juneau]

do you need the adapter still if your speakers come with crossovers?

[elniniol999]

you dont actually need the adapters = just cut the connector off and get to bare wire ;)

[Nip Nip]

What if you want to mount the tweeters in the dash in place of the existing units? I've been doing a lot of searching and can't seem to find a guide that covers installing the tweeters and crossover boxes anywhere. Any advice anyone?

[JackVTR]

how many watts are the standard ones

[ozVTR]

how many watts are the standard ones

They are, maybe, 15-20 watts RMS max. However the main problem is the 'quality' of sound is fairly ordinary.

[CalgonUK]

so is there a definitve answer to the size of the front components? 16cm or 13cm?

[badman77]

Followed this guide today and managed to get it done used a 4mm drill bit to remove the rivets also instead of buying the adapter i simply got some wire and left the end exposed and put it into the oem connector and taped it over works like a charm

[RichieGT]

or the adapters are a couple of quid on ebay

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CT55-02-Speaker-Loom-adaptor-Fiat-Citroen-Peugeot-/350473199835?pt=UK_Cars_Parts_Vehicles_Terminals_C abling_ET&hash=item5199d4a0db