Do your C2 Front Brakes Squeel When Applied?

[DeathsHead]

The reason I ask this is my dealer (Bury) claims this is a common problem on modern cars and it is more common on the C2. They claim that this is due to the Asbestos in the brake pads was replaced with something else due to health and safety issues.

Reading this thread (http://www.c2club.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6296) would indicate that it is a common problem with the C2. I'd like to know how many people suffer from this on their C2 and if it is more common on a GT than other models. It is interesting to read that changing the brake pads for non-standard ones cures the squeeling brakes, and dealers will (at their discretion) replace the pads for those on a C4.

I have a number of complaints against Bury dealer, the first being when my car went to the body shop to have the paint wear on the corners of the upper boot repaired they covered almost the entire car in a fine speckles of black paint thus ruining the finish and making the windows appear dirty. They were supposed to fix this on Wednesday and Thursday except they did a really poor job (areas not even touched). The chap from the bodyshop did say that he was assured by the person that it was done. However, he did state that quality checks were not what they should be since he is so busy... The other is my driver side window rattling, they are replacing the regulator to fix this. We shall see.

I look forward to see what the results are from this poll. If its a large number of people then surely they have to fix this problem.

[Den]

most ppl have front brake problems with the squeeling, it kinda comes as standard with the cars :P id heard the bury dealership was quite good so was supprised at that but dont try taking it to bolton because they are even worse

[Jimbo]

I have had the squeeling problem with my SX and my Furio and my mums Pluriel is the same :(

[scoopybadboy]

Yes very slightly

[Kirsty]

Mine squeal... but since Citroen carried out the break mod the squealing isn't so frequent.

[stathis]

Mine don't squeal!
There is a tip:
When the brake discs start to wear out the upper side of the brake pad scratching the upper side of the disc... (When the discs are new the pads don't do that).
My mechanic scratches the upper side of the pad so that the pad doesn’t touch the disc! And no more squealing!
I don't believe that Citroen has a mod for that!! There is no mod!!

I hope everyone understand what I wrote :-)

never thankfully

[tkm16]

yeh it happens on my furio, its annoying!!

[c2ology]

No problem with mine!

[DeathsHead]

Mine squeal... but since Citroen carried out the break mod the squealing isn't so frequent.

By Break mod I assume you mean the rear breaks. I have had that applied which was supposed to fix the front brakes squealing... Oh right, I must be deaf, blind and daft... :-/

[jaq25]

Never had the front brakes squeal on my GT, just the standard squeal from the rear brakes when reversing :(

[Simon72]

Mine used to squeel when driving then quiet when braking, strang but true.

Check out my post for a quick rectification.

MY THREAD (http://www.c2club.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=6395)

[DeathsHead]

I have literally just made a post in that thread. :)

[DeathsHead]

Never had the front brakes squeal on my GT, just the standard squeal from the rear brakes when reversing :(

You should take your GT to the dealer and get the to apply the fix.

Btw, people should check the corners of the upper boot, the rubber seals wear throught the paint exposing the metal. They were fixing that when they covered my entire car with paint speckles. [smilie=pdt_aliboronz_27.gif] That is part of my dispute with them. If they don't get it resolved I will be taking this matter further with Trading Standars, who were very helpful.

[Sarfaraz_akram]

What did they say

[Chi_7]

I have a GT and i've just got mine back out of Dixon for the brake problem - driving home it was bliss, not a squeak. Dropped my girlfroend off, turned in to my street and had to brake, and there it was, the squeel! not as loud but equally annoying!
Granted, it is far better now but still get it on the odd occasion mainly when i'm slowing from 40mph.

I dont think its a problem that will ever go away but I think it can only be reduced . . . . bit like arthritis

[DeathsHead]

What did they say
What did who say? Trading standards?


Supply of goods and services act, it affects jobs done such as service. Trader must use reasonable care and skill and a duty of care to look after car while its with them.

This was mainly to do with the paint job, but if they don't rectify the problem reported then I believe the same will apply. If they disagree then another call to Trading Standards.

Speaking with two of my mates who are far more knowledgeable than I am when it comes to cars and maintaining them. They both cried BS at the explanation of asbestos and brake pads because if it was because of that ALL cars currently on the road would have this problem since brake pads no longer contain Asbestos. ie this does not apply to just new cars. It applies to all new brake pads since they removed asbestos. I will be sure to bring this up when I drop my car off.

[DeathsHead]

My car is currently at the dealers. It will be interesting to see if they actually do any of the jobs I have told them about. Including the newly developed metalic squeak from the rear near-side suspension. I do wonder if they have a handful of bolts left over and go "hmmm, where did these come from?"

I am not taking a no as an answer regarding the brakes. Utter tosh. If it was the lack of asbestos then all brakes would be affected, not just a high proportion of C2 owners.

Also, I am bumping in hope people who haven't voted do so, so that I have more ammunition tomorrow.

[keenan_gt]

according to my Dad the reason for squeaky brakes is just the build up of dust between the discs and pads! its annoying !

[DeathsHead]

Except the garage was supposed to fix this by cleaning the brakes etc 2 weeks ago. As soon as I drove off the fore court and had to brake... SQUEAK! I believe its something to do with the brake pads they put on the C2.

[keenan_gt]

think mines are due to be changed soon ne ways!

[BrammeR]

Never had the front brakes squeal on my GT, just the standard squeal from the rear brakes when reversing :(

Mine squeeks loudly when going backwards, when i put some brakes on to slow me down it squeeks really loudly!

My rear disks and pads are snookerd too, big groves in the disks and pads, only coverd 8101 miles from new!

i Could say my car has unsafe rear brakes! cit shgould fix :D

People who have disks and pads on the rear, Could you check to see if your brake disks have some grives in? mine are really bad look at my topic in problems and advice "Rear GT Brakes"

My car is book in for 815 on thursday at autoworld in town, Problem i booked it in for is "squeeking REALLY Loud when going backwards!"

What you lot reckon they'll do/say?
Best not charge me, ill go to trading standerds saying my car has unsafe rear brakes, i am putting my self and others at risk around me.

Bram

[kruki]

No. Never heard any sound that the brakes produce (except for abs).

[cooldudes_vts]

Only make noise when brake in reverse !

[DeathsHead]

Never had the front brakes squeal on my GT, just the standard squeal from the rear brakes when reversing :(

Mine squeeks loudly when going backwards, when i put some brakes on to slow me down it squeeks really loudly!

My rear disks and pads are snookerd too, big groves in the disks and pads, only coverd 8101 miles from new!

i Could say my car has unsafe rear brakes! cit shgould fix :D

People who have disks and pads on the rear, Could you check to see if your brake disks have some grives in? mine are really bad look at my topic in problems and advice "Rear GT Brakes"

My car is book in for 815 on thursday at autoworld in town, Problem i booked it in for is "squeeking REALLY Loud when going backwards!"

What you lot reckon they'll do/say?
Best not charge me, ill go to trading standerds saying my car has unsafe rear brakes, i am putting my self and others at risk around me.

Bram

Have you been to your dealer and asked them to apply the GT rear brake fix? If not, you need to.

[DeathsHead]

And please note my poll question is for front brakes and not rear brakes. :)

[GT_1]

Nope mine don't make a noise all the time just sometimes.

[DeathsHead]

But the front brakes do squeak some times when braking? Does it depend on how hot they are?

[GT_1]

Yes. I havnt noticed it enough to determine whether they are hot or not sorry.

[BrammeR]

Have you been to your dealer and asked them to apply the GT rear brake fix? If not, you need to.

Yes i did, they said there is no thing, there are no mods for the gt or any recalls on my car.

muppits they are.

Bram

[DeathsHead]

They are full of crap then. Is there another Citroen dealership within reasonable driving distance?

[DeathsHead]

Well, no phone call from the Bury dealership. I wonder if that means they have done a really bad job and have to keep it an extra day to try and fix it. *sigh*

[petrolhead]

My brakes squeal, apparently. I say 'apparently' because I have hearing problems, and the squeal is too high-pitched to be in my frequency range. My brother and friends complain about the squeal, but I'm not sure if I can really approach Citroen, cos if they do fix the squeal, how will I know?

[DeathsHead]

Have your brother or friends with you after the "fix" them. :-/ Thats all I can suggest.

[Liquid]

what kind of brakes could i put on the front? i would like them to be larger in diameter. would any of the other citroen models' brakes fit?

[DeathsHead]

Apparently C4 brake pads also fit on the C2. Green are supposedly good, but I have also read that they are rubbish. You don't need bigger brakes on the C2 unless you want it to stop so quickly it does a forward flip :)

[scoopybadboy]

mine have started squeeking alot!! its doin my head in

[bellshillsfinest]

when a took my car in for all the work

1. brakes
2. vibration in accseloratoe pedal
3. hazards cummin on as soon as brake applys
4. crunch in reverse

a got the thickest looking man ever too say its fine nothing wrong n a said take it a spin round the place too c whts wrong a got its fine n cant find any faults n thts ment too b a dealer ?? what a toss**

[DeathsHead]

I would like to agree with you, however, I have no idea what you just typed.

[DeathsHead]

Why do I want to swear the house down?

Effing useless effing female bits.

Its been in since 8:45 monday morning. It only went to the body shop late yesterday.

How long does it take to do front brakes, window and rear suspension squeaking? 2 days it seems. And 2 days for the bodyshop.

They said 2 days, possibly 3. Not 4!

I am working tomorrow night, I sleep in the afternoon. "We'll phone you at 5" Great, when I should be sleeping!

Looks like I could have done 3 days overtime after all!

[DeathsHead]

Well, initial indications are the brake squeak appears to be fixed. I will need to do some hard braking tonight to confirm this.

Paint work appears to be mainly resolved. I will only know for sure when I clean and wax my car. Its covered in the crappy white powder stuff that the bodyshop has used to wax it.

Driver window rattle, still there :( sort of like a shu-shu-shu-shu noise as two one thing rubs against another over bumps. I need to open the window an inch to see if it rattles as bad as it did before.

A noise from the nearside rear suspension was fixed by replacing the rear shocker. What did they do to my car to require replacement? :(

[Simong88]

brakes squeek reallly loud if im going backwards, i dont even need the brakes applied at all i just go backwards and there is the noise!!! also how the **** do i stop the left door rattling when music is played, really annoying. any bass at all and it rattles really badly and can hear the rattle outside the car..

[tkm16]

brakes squeek reallly loud if im going backwards, i dont even need the brakes applied at all i just go backwards and there is the noise!!! also how the **** do i stop the left door rattling when music is played, really annoying. any bass at all and it rattles really badly and can hear the rattle outside the car..

I have exactly the same problem!! All sound equipment in my car is standard and i can hear it rattleing when the volume is on 5?!! :? Iv had it back to citroen but they said its supposed to be like that :lol:

[bellshillsfinest]

check u have nothing it the side compartment off the door tht might b the problem and if you dont buy some sound deddning matting and remove the door car then just line it with the stuff if there is any obvious rattly stuff just tighten it that might help :-)

[bellshillsfinest]

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[bellshillsfinest]

Sorry wrong post can that b removed please :-$ :oops: :oops:

[DeathsHead]

Why not just use the edit button? ;)

http://www.c2club.co.uk/themes/c2club/images/forums/lang_english/icon_edit.gif (http://www.c2club.co.uk/index.php?name=Forums&file=posting&mode=editpost&p=113515)

[Bradders77]

My VTS has squeaky brakes too, garage told me the asbestos story, and recommended i did some hard braking to burn off the glaze on the pads..no joy there. Am thinking about insisting the garage change the discs.. but by the look of this thread, it doesn't guarantee to solve it!

[C2Gavi]

Reserection of the dead. Mine don't squeek, you just need to make sure you copper grease the required locations.

[gregwVTS]

epic revival, my backs squeek but its probably something to do with the fact that after 60,000 miles I still have the original discs and pads on the back haha.

[Bradders77]

Thanks for the copper grease suggestion, the car's going back to the dealership this weeek for them to do the greasing! Will report if it works for me. They are also meant to be fixing the rattling windows...

[thedoomsdale]

I used to have this problem, but i solved it by removing the rust that was on the breaks, even on the side of the disk where the brakes dont touch. grind it first, then sand it down to get the finer bits off, it solved my problem, just make sure you dont go overboard and take too much off!

[SteVTS]

I get the squeeling noise when breaking gently, but not always. I don't know what determines whether or not the brakes make the noise.

[adam]

the rattling windows must be one of the most annoying things on my c2 i dont have much noise from the brakes just a slight high pitched noise... is it normal for the alternator belt on the vts to be quite noisey just ive never heard another one started ?

[Rankle]

i have just had new discs and pads all round on my c2 vtr. i asked the guy if i have to bed them in or anything and his reply was, " not really, just try and avoid heavy braking for a good 200 miles, this will stop the brakes from squeaking later on "

i followed his advice and so far no squeaking, ive done about 500 miles so far...